Deputy Attorney General Speaking at Idaho Carry’s October Dinner

Paul Panther, Deputy Attorney General and Chief of the Criminal Law Division will be speaking to us at our October 24th dinner about the AG’s efforts at obtaining reciprocity agreements from other states. This will be another good one, so mark your calendars and bring your friends. It will be at Fuddruckers at 3421 E. Eagle Rd. in Meridian at 6:30pm.



Does the thought of carrying openly in public make you nervous, uncomfortable or fearful? If so, then learning these few facts may help to settle your nerves and alleviate your fears.

  • Anthropologist Charles Springwood defined it well when he said that Open Carriers are trying to “naturalize the presence of guns, which means that guns become ordinary, omnipresent, and expected. Over time, the gun becomes a symbol of ordinary personhood.”
  • Open Carry is the first line of defense against the anti-gun groups and its first casualty in states where it is not practiced.  If you don’t use it, you lose it.  95% of Idaho residents do not know you can Open Carry without a permit and we will lose our rights when we remain ignorant of them.
  • Finally, but equally important, we Open Carry for our defense – and – it allows criminals to make well informed decisions, which are unavailable to them when they are around those who Conceal Carry.

 The projected crime rate this year for the City of Boise alone will be:

408 Aggravated assaults

 938 Burglaries

 109 Forcible Rapes

 8 Murders or Manslaughter

74 Robberies

 It is unlikely that Open Carriers will experience the rapes, robberies, murders or assaults.

WHAT IS OPEN CARRY?                                                                                                     It is the beautiful bold face of the 2nd Amendment
It is the American flag to America’s enemies
It is the ultimate symbol of American freedom
It is Ronald Reagan’s “Tear down this wall!”
It is “in your face” to the anti-gun left
It is George Washington to the British
It is storming Normandy to the Germans                                                                    Open Carry is the first line of defense against the anti- gun left and the first casualty in states where OCers don’t practice their Open Carry rights                      USE IT OR LOSE IT!                                                                                                     
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One of the many reasons to Carry:                                                                       On October 16, 1991, 35-year-old George Pierre Hennard, an unemployed merchant seaman who was described to others as angry and withdrawn, with a dislike of women, drove his 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby’s cafeteria at 1705 East Central Texas Expressway in Killeen, yelled “This is what Bell County has done to me!”, then opened fire on its patrons and staff with a Glock 17 pistol and later a Ruger P89.  He stalked, shot, and killed 23 people while wounding another 20 before committing suicide by shooting himself. About 80 people were in the restaurant at the time. During the shooting, Hennard approached Dr. Suzanna Hupp and her parents. She had a handgun in her vehicle outside. Her father charged at him in an attempt to subdue him but was gunned down; a short time later, her mother was shot and killed.

Lesson learned!  The public needs OCers to be prepared at all times.

Supreme Court Case Law on Unlawful Stops and Seizures 

  • In Delaware v Prouse, an officer cannot detain someone without reasonable suspicion of a crime.
  • In Hibel v Nevada and Brown v Texas, both require reasonable suspicion of a crime before demanding an ID.
  • In US v DeBerry (from the 7th Circuit), the presence of a firearm, where legal to possess, cannot by itself be reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
  • In Terry v Ohio, three criteria must be met in order to disarm an individual:
  1. 1.     The officer must have a suspicion that the individual is armed;
  2. 2.     The officer must have a suspicion that the individual is dangerous; and

The officer must have a reasonable suspicion that the individual has committed or is about to commit a crime.